tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683346.post2420346143127026168..comments2024-01-31T19:28:56.335-06:00Comments on OPEN Teacher Talk: Network Diversity Index ReduxJeffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11941471607867967668noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683346.post-67841539880902427812009-12-16T09:24:24.364-06:002009-12-16T09:24:24.364-06:00It is rather interesting for me to read this post....It is rather interesting for me to read this post. Thanx for it. I like such themes and anything that is connected to them. I definitely want to read more soon.<br />Alex<br /><a href="http://www.jammer-store.com" rel="nofollow">Phone blocker</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683346.post-4823877644739650532008-04-24T00:46:00.000-05:002008-04-24T00:46:00.000-05:00@darren I,too, am going to think on this a while l...@darren I,too, am going to think on this a while longer. Compared to most, my network is relatively small. I am simply going to track diversity over time and work on the species key.<BR/>@Sue Thanks for joining the conversation. You're correct that this analysis won't work on networks <I>unless</I> the data is valid. <BR/>Having telephone people in your network, you may know that this analysis' came out of Bell Labs in the 40's in an effort to deal with signal "noise". Even at the risk of losing serendipitous discovery, most of a large network is going to be noise. Selectively pruning a network can boost signal to noise ratio. <BR/>But wait! I only say that to prod discussion. I too am fond of the social aspect of the network and would sorely miss dnorman's cycling exploits, utecht's gourmet screencasts and sujokat's "good night tweeties" (as I am rising) all for the sake of efficiency.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11941471607867967668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683346.post-5137007975911880972008-04-22T22:34:00.000-05:002008-04-22T22:34:00.000-05:00Actually Jeff you've shown excellent blog etiquett...Actually Jeff you've shown excellent blog etiquette as Darren points out. As he highlights your blog your rules however always good blogging practice to respond back in comments to comments by readers on a post and when your comments are too long then writing a post to respond is an excellent follow up. <BR/><BR/>And to be extra sneaky (and earn bonus points) track Darren's comments on cocomment and you know what he is commenting on. <BR/><BR/>As a scientist myself I'm not sure we can apply these rules to our online networks -- perhaps there are alternative statistical measures that could be used? <BR/><BR/>Or perhaps the issues lies in identifying the different groups? Take for example your species - designer - each of those probably needs to be broken apart to their own unique species, then expanded, as they bring totally difference expertise to the mixture. What about the educators - primary, secondary, vocational and tertiary educators all are uniques and offer totally different view points? <BR/><BR/>Alternatively maybe Darren needs to look at the mix more closely in his network. I've got non-profits, educators, programmers, web designers, people from companies (Web 2.0, IT and phone companies), people from non-English speaking countries which all provide more diversity than just educators with ed tech backgrounds. <BR/><BR/>My girlfriend did exactly what you suggest regarding Wordpress tip. She wanted to keep her twitter network smaller -- so she deliberately went through and hand picked people from specific industry areas. <BR/><BR/>I don't believe Darren can reduce his network to 25-30 people and still obtain the same information because that is the magic with social networks. You never totally know where that amazing tip or suggestion is going to come from. Besides which 25-30 people is way too low; if you said 150-200 then maybe I would agree.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683346.post-5765974432806252282008-04-22T13:52:00.000-05:002008-04-22T13:52:00.000-05:00Thank you, Jeff, for the response. For the record,...Thank you, Jeff, for the response. For the record, responding to comments with a new post are completely in line with blogging etiquette. It's your blog, you make the rules as to how you respond to your readers' comments.<BR/><BR/>Now, I think you're correct on two levels. First, my network does appear to lack diversity. Second, my network's diversity is actually greater than it appears.<BR/><BR/>The problem does lie in how I have classified the members of my network. While I agree that I could likely increase efficiency while not degrading information by reducing the number of edtech members that I follow (or by creating additional sub-classifications), the trick becomes determining exactly which folks to drop (and hoping that feelings aren't hurt in the process, a discussion that takes on multiple dimensions).<BR/><BR/>I like the ideas you've put forth here and will have to think more on the subject.Darren Draperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17578208859042859340noreply@blogger.com